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+5GeeDee alain62 deep-strike ney.dias rickoshea 9 posters |
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rickoshea

Anzahl der Beiträge : 548 Anmeldedatum : 2010-07-08 Ort : Overlooking the thames & F***ing miles away from Ney's Home!!
 | Subject: Car Classes & Missmatches Sun 28 Oct 2012, 12:18 pm | |
| I don't know if anyone else suffers from this problem, but every car i like in all the classes cannot compete with the others.. For example- TC class, isuzu bellet, mk2 jag, i love these cars, but they get their asses kicked by alfa's & cortina's.. GTC class, AM DB4 & E type, nice cars, slow as F**K Now the Maserati 300, 10secs a lap slower than the 450 & 16secs slower than the birdtable?? WTF... we need to- "Level the Playing Field" Maybe have a new - "Dog Slow" class for all the Mongrels | |
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ney.dias

Anzahl der Beiträge : 2344 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-23 Alter : 74 Ort : Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - not so close to Le Mans
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deep-strike

Anzahl der Beiträge : 931 Anmeldedatum : 2010-09-28 Alter : 57 Ort : Germany
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Sun 28 Oct 2012, 2:03 pm | |
| Of the basic idea, I agree with you. If for example look at the real technical data of the two Maserati, one must realize that there are already major differences. http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/292/Maserati-300S.html http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/535/Maserati-450S.html I created a new file for the ENG 300S (272HP @ 6500rpm / 314Nm @ 5000rpm) but there are time differences to the 450S. In Bremgarten54 there are still about 6 seconds, and are in LeMans60 20Sekunden approx. Sure, we could adjust by changing the power the vehicles, but it really makes sense? Then already rather a new class for the slower vehicles, ensure fair competition can take place. It's no fun when the car looks great and it only runs behind. | |
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alain62

Anzahl der Beiträge : 1071 Anmeldedatum : 2011-10-26 Alter : 61 Ort : Liège Belgium - not so far from Spa-Francorchamps
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Mon 29 Oct 2012, 10:03 am | |
| - deep-strike wrote:
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Sure, we could adjust by changing the power the vehicles, but it really makes sense? Then already rather a new class for the slower vehicles, ensure fair competition can take place. It's no fun when the car looks great and it only runs behind. I agree with Deep-Strike. Differences between some cars must stay as they were. We are driving sim and not arcade. It's the reason why i prefer to choose the cars with GTL_Xcars : there is a ratio weight/power for each mod/car in this program. | |
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ney.dias

Anzahl der Beiträge : 2344 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-23 Alter : 74 Ort : Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - not so close to Le Mans
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Mon 29 Oct 2012, 2:43 pm | |
| As MG had to use a Mercedes 300SL engine in this Mod, my option was used some engine more close to real car (and this engine used by MG is very, very close to real car!!), and i had an old one in my HD (3.0-litre , approx 245 bhp (183 kW) at 6200 rpm) , used also in T61 Bircage. Obviously is much less powered of 450S, as indicated its project! I only try to be closer than real car, and, as i had this engine in my HD, was easy to change! But I agree, as we have a simulator and not a arcade game, we have to use physics as close to real car as possible! | |
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deep-strike

Anzahl der Beiträge : 931 Anmeldedatum : 2010-09-28 Alter : 57 Ort : Germany
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Mon 29 Oct 2012, 6:46 pm | |
| I think the main problem is to get correct technical data of vehicles. Many different information can be found on many Internet sites. But which is correct? And there it begins to find a reasonable compromise. If you find original data on the manufacturers page this should be the right, what else? - ney.dias wrote:
But I agree, as we have a simulator and not a arcade game, we have to use physics as close to real car as possible! And that's what makes it so exciting. | |
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rickoshea

Anzahl der Beiträge : 548 Anmeldedatum : 2010-07-08 Ort : Overlooking the thames & F***ing miles away from Ney's Home!!
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Tue 30 Oct 2012, 2:19 am | |
| Ney, my Birdcage kicks the 450's ass??
Tried it several times at Watkins Glen & it's 7secs a lap quicker?? Will have to try it against the db2 ect.. | |
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ney.dias

Anzahl der Beiträge : 2344 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-23 Alter : 74 Ort : Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - not so close to Le Mans
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Tue 30 Oct 2012, 2:48 am | |
| - rickoshea wrote:
- Ney, my Birdcage kicks the 450's ass??
Tried it several times at Watkins Glen & it's 7secs a lap quicker?? Will have to try it against the db2 ect.. Maybe some brasilian pepper in the fuel?? Remember to check your tyres! Probably you have ones with incredible grip, as I have! Try to change it, so!! But it's very quick! Remember it's a WIP yet! | |
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GeeDee Premium Member


Anzahl der Beiträge : 4040 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-23 Alter : 74 Ort : 1 hour from Croft and enough distance from Rick & Ney
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Tue 30 Oct 2012, 10:32 am | |
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ney.dias

Anzahl der Beiträge : 2344 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-23 Alter : 74 Ort : Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - not so close to Le Mans
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GeeDee Premium Member


Anzahl der Beiträge : 4040 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-23 Alter : 74 Ort : 1 hour from Croft and enough distance from Rick & Ney
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Tue 30 Oct 2012, 2:28 pm | |
| Tut tut Ney, your Google Translator must be a very old one or even a cheap version as my Google Translator came up with 'chicotes' in Portuguese at the speed of sound!!!!! This is a wikipedia page on the subject of whips: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whip Now you will understand my fine Brazil Nut! Geegle... your friendly translator | |
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ney.dias

Anzahl der Beiträge : 2344 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-23 Alter : 74 Ort : Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - not so close to Le Mans
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Tue 30 Oct 2012, 3:28 pm | |
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rickoshea

Anzahl der Beiträge : 548 Anmeldedatum : 2010-07-08 Ort : Overlooking the thames & F***ing miles away from Ney's Home!!
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Wed 31 Oct 2012, 2:11 am | |
| Something will get the "Cat o Nine's" that's for sure, As i installed the new P&G yesterday, immediately after all my icons turned to- Win 95 style, so i left it to get some dinner, upon my return every time i fired up my pc i was greeted with the "Blue Screen" of death So, i've now had to fit my spare C: drive in, but have lost about 25 tracks i was working on, also the fix for Gordon's Maserati Wheels.. Thanks P&G | |
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nikbear
Anzahl der Beiträge : 1191 Anmeldedatum : 2011-03-16
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Wed 31 Oct 2012, 3:49 am | |
| Ouch Rick  that's a right kick in the guts | |
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lauter

Anzahl der Beiträge : 853 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-24
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GeeDee Premium Member


Anzahl der Beiträge : 4040 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-23 Alter : 74 Ort : 1 hour from Croft and enough distance from Rick & Ney
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Wed 31 Oct 2012, 2:16 pm | |
| - rickoshea wrote:
- Something will get the "Cat o Nine's" that's for sure,
As i installed the new P&G yesterday, immediately after all my icons turned to- Win 95 style, so i left it to get some dinner, upon my return every time i fired up my pc i was greeted with the "Blue Screen" of death
So, i've now had to fit my spare C: drive in, but have lost about 25 tracks i was working on, also the fix for Gordon's Maserati Wheels..
Thanks P&G It's the ghost of Black Beard come back ta haunt thee Rick... ya should never have taken his wooden leg and stuffed his parrot and sank his good ship the Black Pig... arghhhhhhh!! Hope you can get things sorted me old hearty. Cap'n GeeString | |
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jeannomiller Admin

Anzahl der Beiträge : 3001 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-22 Ort : Germany
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Wed 31 Oct 2012, 2:44 pm | |
| Aaarrrgghh - bad luck. Had no problems at all with dl and install of P&G V3. DL in less than 30 minutes via rapidshare link and install as recommended by GTL-Workshop-team. Hope you will be back soon in full extent _________________ So long.
Jeannomiller
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CX650

Anzahl der Beiträge : 213 Anmeldedatum : 2010-08-02 Alter : 71
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Wed 31 Oct 2012, 4:16 pm | |
| - GeeDee wrote:
It's the ghost of Black Beard come back ta haunt thee Rick... ya should never have taken his wooden leg and stuffed his parrot and sank his good ship the Black Pig... arghhhhhhh!! I thought the Black Pig was Pugwash's ship? LoL | |
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GeeDee Premium Member


Anzahl der Beiträge : 4040 Anmeldedatum : 2010-06-23 Alter : 74 Ort : 1 hour from Croft and enough distance from Rick & Ney
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Wed 31 Oct 2012, 4:38 pm | |
| - CX650 wrote:
- GeeDee wrote:
It's the ghost of Black Beard come back ta haunt thee Rick... ya should never have taken his wooden leg and stuffed his parrot and sank his good ship the Black Pig... arghhhhhhh!! I thought the Black Pig was Pugwash's ship? LoL Yup, your exactly right CX. I should have said Queen Anne's Revenge which was launched in 1710 as Concord. Captured: By France in 1711 Renamed: La Concorde in 1711 Captured: By Benjamin Hornigold and Blackbeard in 1717 Renamed: Queen Anne's Revenge in 1717 Fate: Run aground in 1718 near Beaufort Inlet, North Carolina 2012: Sunk by Rickoshea the old sea dawg when he relieved himself on deck!! Ooooh arghhhhhhhhh lad! | |
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rickoshea

Anzahl der Beiträge : 548 Anmeldedatum : 2010-07-08 Ort : Overlooking the thames & F***ing miles away from Ney's Home!!
 | Subject: Re: Car Classes & Missmatches Thu 01 Nov 2012, 12:13 am | |
| You forgot the Mutiny started by Seaman Staines I think that the P&G install i did & my pc's demise was just a Coinkydink Had a chat with Duckfreak just to inform him of my "untimely" issue, & no-one else has reported this fault.. So, i think we'll put this down to what the GI's called- "FUBAR" | |
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