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PostSubject: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyMon 21 Nov 2016, 7:15 pm

Hi guys, I've come around a problem recently. I've stuck some crazy powerful engines into small, old cars and yes, I was bored Very Happy  Anyway, the cars do work perfectly fine, except for the engine, that bangs into the rev limiter instantly after accelerating. (I drive with automatic and keyboard) Could someone tell me why this happens? Sad
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyMon 21 Nov 2016, 7:30 pm

The obvious reason is a powerful engine in a lightweight car Laughing
- in *.eng file, try to increase the "EngineInertia" value (this usually does the trick) and reduce the "IdleRPMLogic" one
- use Tom's Engine Shop to reduce hp/torque at low/med revs
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyMon 21 Nov 2016, 7:50 pm

Thanks a lot! Will try tommorow. Finally my 917K-engined VW Beetle should be running properly!
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyMon 21 Nov 2016, 10:06 pm

It probably needs a better gear box. If the gears are to short the car will hit the rev limiter Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyMon 21 Nov 2016, 11:13 pm

....slipping clutch?..........running out of gear sounds more reasonable......
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyTue 22 Nov 2016, 5:01 am

GeeDee wrote:
It probably needs a better gear box. If the gears are to short the car will hit the rev limiter Very Happy

I've used the gearbox from the same car that I took the engine from
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyTue 22 Nov 2016, 2:14 pm

teddyator wrote:
GeeDee wrote:
It probably needs a better gear box. If the gears are to short the car will hit the rev limiter Very Happy

I've used the gearbox from the same car that I took the engine from
GD is right, if the car is waay too lighter then you may have to use longer gears /final ratio Smile

joeschmoe wrote:
...slipping clutch?..........running out of gear sounds more reasonable....
Is this adjusted by Clutch torque /engage rate? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyTue 22 Nov 2016, 4:09 pm

As he mentioned he already changed the gearbox to the one from the donator car, its clutch torque. Often overseen in such swaps. A clutch designed for a 1000cc car will shortly cry for help if some 427 Detroit iron is engaged, before it dies in a cloud of smoke Wink Safest bet is to copy the whole [Driveline]-section to the new car.
Engage rate usually doesn't differ much over most cars.
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyThu 08 Dec 2016, 6:28 pm

0fflabeluse wrote:
As he mentioned he already changed the gearbox to the one from the donator car, its clutch torque. Often overseen in such swaps. A clutch designed for a 1000cc car will shortly cry for help if some 427 Detroit iron is engaged, before it dies in a cloud of smoke Wink Safest bet is to copy the whole [Driveline]-section to the new car.
Engage rate usually doesn't differ much over most cars.
Thanks Thx m8, finally they're working! My Escudo-engined Mini is racing my
R26B-engined Mini and the before mentioned 917-Beetle    thumbup thumbup Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyThu 08 Dec 2016, 7:25 pm

Film at 11?
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyThu 08 Dec 2016, 8:49 pm

joeschmoe wrote:
Film at 11?
Watcha mean? confused
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyThu 08 Dec 2016, 11:10 pm

Would be fun to see a video of these monsters............, they MUST be fast as hell!!!

forgot to mention, "Film at 11" is what news commercials would tell you all day and night to keep you watching their channel/sponsors...........
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyFri 09 Dec 2016, 7:32 am

Sadly as far as videos go, I really can't do much the, but I can try my best to upload them and share the fun! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyFri 09 Dec 2016, 7:36 am

Also, screenshots coming soon!
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PostSubject: Re: [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly   [HELP] Cars go into Rev limiter instantly EmptyFri 09 Dec 2016, 8:53 pm

Here are the screenshots!! Very Happy
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VW Beetle with a Porsche 917K engine @ AVUS 1967
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