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Ducon




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PostSubject: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyThu 18 Jan 2024, 8:05 am

I've already posted a pic of it on another thread. Today, my connexion is good enough to allow me to upload pics, so here's a bit more info...

The first addon car for GTL, in 2006, was a Renault 8 Gordini. The physics and performance were unrealistic but the low-poly 3D body was way better looking than what we have in the more recent R8G mods.

I wanted to convert the version from Gran Turismo 6/7 but the converted to .Obj model was on Gamemodels and is not available anymore,
or the one from Forza Horizon 5 but I can't seem to be able to open the .carbin files...

So, I'm using as a base the best looking model available, one made for Rfactor by F1Ligue. There has been several versions, I'm using the first one, it's more detailed and better looking than the following versions.

Still, if the car looks more like a R8 than the other 3D models available, if you put it side by side with photos of the real car it's easy to spot the many inaccuracies.

So I've begun to rework the model, little by little, part by part. I've almost finished the body, only the bonnet and trunk remain. It will more or less take a week for each, I'm no 3D expert, I do it in 3DSimed, triangle after triangle. The new body will be more accurate, of course, but also lighter and more detailed, I'm eliminating a lot of unnecessary faces or merge several into a bigger one.

Of course, after that, all the other parts will have to be reworked or redone to fit with the new body...

So, here's how it looks so far :


Renault 8 Gordini Sans_t14
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Renault 8 Gordini Sans_t17

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyThu 18 Jan 2024, 2:45 pm

promising. I love accuracy and eye for detail. Will follow developments with interest.
Cheers, Dan

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyThu 18 Jan 2024, 3:15 pm

Hi guys! Take a look at this Renault R8 Mod made by Speedster63:
https://speedster63.blogspot.com/2013/05/renault-r8-gordini-1300-gr2.html
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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyThu 18 Jan 2024, 3:40 pm

ney.dias wrote:
Hi guys! Take a look at this Renault R8 Mod made by Speedster63:
https://speedster63.blogspot.com/2013/05/renault-r8-gordini-1300-gr2.html

The 3D model looks a lot like the one from BLT. I've installed it and removed it, it's difficult for me to feel any immersion with a car that looks so remotely like the real one. I think those who modeled the car have certainly never seen the car in real life. As I said in the first post, the best looking model we have so far remains the car made by Franckf55 in 2006. It's very low poly but it looks more like a R8 than any other released since...

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyThu 18 Jan 2024, 5:18 pm

Permit me, Ducon, to totally desagree with you, because this Speedster63 Mod shows exactly the real car I had one day in the remote past in my real garage.
It's not polite you say critics words to other modders who spent so many hours working for free to our pure enjoyment.
So, let's see your PERFECT job done, for me to feel totally and real immersion as you said above.
For sure even Marco (Speedster) as well BLT guys will feel your "so kind" words about their job.
Our friendly and amazing community does not need guys like you, so arrogant and unpolite.
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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyThu 18 Jan 2024, 5:27 pm

ney.dias wrote:
Permit me, Ducon, to totally desagree with you, because this Speedster63 Mod shows exactly the real car I had one day in the remote past in my real garage.
It's not polite you say critics words to other modders who spent so many hours working for free to our pure enjoyment.
So, let's see your PERFECT job done, for me to feel totally and real immersion as you said above.
For sure even Marco (Speedster) as well BLT guys will feel your "so kind" words about their job.
Our friendly and amazing community does not need guys like you, so arrogant and unpolite.

Why do I feel this comment will start a useless shitstorm? Do we need it? Is it forbidden to say that a 3d model is better than another? Jumping on this thread to stop someone doing his version of another car is ok? The unpolite comment is another.  Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyThu 18 Jan 2024, 6:33 pm

Omg, again..

If the speedster63 or the Diabo Loiro is going to be offended, and they shouldn't be.

There is a "mania" to defend the honor of others that is quite questionable. I even understand a brother, a son, etc. taking the pain and feel wronged, but the others?

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyThu 18 Jan 2024, 7:31 pm

I say the more Renault Gordinis we have the better people have a choice use it or not use it its up to them simples thumbup

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyFri 19 Jan 2024, 12:48 am

The BLT/Speedster63 model is the one at the bottom. No other comment needed.

Renault 8 Gordini Renaul12

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyTue 23 Jan 2024, 10:41 am

The 1st stage of body rework is completed and taken to the track to see how it looks like.

Still a lot of work to do. If you compare the profiles of the cars on the pic above, the lower body is too high, the upper part too low, the A-pillar needs to be more upright, the B-pillar moved forward, the C-pillar looks too long, the top of doors, the wheel arches and the bottom of the wings/fenders have to be modified, etc. but the car already looks better than what it was.

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyTue 23 Jan 2024, 11:26 am

Highly sophisticated GOOD

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyTue 23 Jan 2024, 11:41 am

jeannomiller wrote:
Highly sophisticated GOOD

The original was 3.67 MB and now it's down to 2.73 while being more detailed. I'll make a bit less detailed version, without the holes on the bonnet and boot and other fantasies, so that should remove one more MB, and I'll make lods also to make the car playable on older PCs. So a lot of work in perspective...

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyThu 01 Feb 2024, 7:31 am

Here's how it looks so far :

A real R8G :

Renault 8 Gordini 00a10

The reworked 3D model :

Renault 8 Gordini 00c10

Superposed :

Renault 8 Gordini 00b10

The 3D model is in pink to show the differences. It still needs a bit of work on the top of windshield, rear window, b-pillar and the bottom and rear of the rear wings. The rest will remain as it is. There's not a single polygon that has remained in its original size or position but when comparing to the original AC model, it's hard to notice any difference...  Crying or Very sad

Original AC car :

Renault 8 Gordini 00d10

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyThu 01 Feb 2024, 7:42 am

Wow!

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyYesterday at 9:54 am

Body shell finished at last. The original model was looking good but actually needed to be reworked completely. It took a lot of time, especially for the smoothing that is really complicated to achieve when you don't really know how to do it. Well, it's far from perfect but it's the best I can do...

The new body has slimmed from 3.67MB to 2.17, the simplified version with no holes on the hood and trunk is 1.46. I will now work on the lods.

Body is remapped, I've understood how to do it in a less amateurish way . Here's how it looks now :

Renault 8 Gordini Sans_t21
Renault 8 Gordini Sans_t20

I think it will take some time before the car is finished.

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyYesterday at 10:07 am

Looks really great... thumbup2
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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyYesterday at 10:49 am

Superb work! We rejoice !!
And if you release a template before release, the community can possibly send you some skins!
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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyYesterday at 1:26 pm

There will be a template of course, but don't expect it until the car is a lot more nearer completion, it would be stupid to release a template that would become useless because of last moment modifications...

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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyYesterday at 2:13 pm

Totally agreed !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyYesterday at 3:15 pm

I say that because it already happened. I painfully made all the skins for the Mercedes 6.3 and wondered why they were so difficult to do. Then I finally realized that the B-pillar was not at the right place so that the front doors were too long and the rear doors too short. So, of course, after modifying the 3D model, all my skins were good for the trashcan...
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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyYesterday at 4:52 pm

No worries, I didn't know the progress of the project! It was if the bodysuit was finished, to relieve you while you finished EVERYTHING else....and thank you again for this great work
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PostSubject: Re: Renault 8 Gordini   Renault 8 Gordini EmptyToday at 3:16 am

The body is finished, but, there's always a but, you never know what might happen with the "everything else". Even some small details may lead to modify the main body texture. I also experienced that when I did the SM, twice, just before completion. Some details that I didn't notice before but that you couldn't unsee once you've seen them. Fortunately, I didn't have to redo the 129 body textures, but to rework them all, and twice, and it was certainly the most boring part when making the car.

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