CTD during quick race session (GTL)

Subject: CTD during quick race session (GTL) Fri 04 Mar 2016, 10:36 pm

Hi All,
I have a weird issue. I am getting CTD's during the quick race session. All tracks and cars initially load with no issues. I have narrowed it down to a specific car (My own conversion from the GTR2 Absolute Can Am Mod). The crash usually happens about 15 minutes into the session. It's not related to any specific session (Practice, Qualify, Race) it just happens regardless of any sessions skipped. Neither is it affected by the track in use or if I am actually driving or sitting in the garage.

Open Practice is unaffected and I can drive around for ages with no CDT.

Up to the point of the crash everything is running smoothly, no stutters or anything, it just freezes and then dumps me to the desktop. I'm no expert in the trace file and nothing jumps out at me as being the obvious culprit.

There is an error relating to a mesh loading AnimationLoa 180: Error loading mesh file M-FANFEMALE-3.GMT.GMT to memory but as I said it happens at all tracks (Just with this single car - All numbers, not just 1 specific ".car" file).

Has anyone experienced this before and could point me in the right direction?

Many Thanks in advance

Trace File output is shown below.

TTFN
John.

Code:: TRACE LEVEL = 1000
NetComm.cpp 7639: NetComm checking command line: "-trace=1000"
game.cpp 622: Entered Game::Enter()
osman.cpp 480: Entered OSMan::Enter()
vidman.cpp 1044: Entered VidMan::Enter()
specialfx.cp 3138: Entered SpecialFX::Enter()
dynman.cpp 632: Entered DynMan::Enter()
plrfile.cpp 3334: Entered PlayerFile::Enter()
sound.cpp 725: Entered Sound::Enter()
hwinput.cpp 6369: Entered HWInput::Enter()
onscreen.cpp 2941: Entered OnScreen::Enter()
game.cpp 717: Entered Game::Setup()
hwinput.cpp 6383: Entered HWInput::Setup()
options.cpp 1561: Entered Options::Setup()
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
plrfile.cpp 2510: Attempting to save to USERDATA\Jeep\Jeep.TMP
plrfile.cpp 2533: Retcode: 0 for renaming to USERDATA\Jeep\Jeep.PLR
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
specialfx.cp 3144: Entered SpecialFX::Setup()
steward.cpp 4585: Entered Steward::Setup()
dynman.cpp 644: Entered DynMan::Setup()
sound.cpp 748: Entered Sound::Setup()
onscreen.cpp 2947: Entered OnScreen::Setup()
vidman.cpp 1184: Entered VidMan::Setup()
plrfile.cpp 3344: Entered PlayerFile::Setup()
plrfile.cpp 2510: Attempting to save to USERDATA\Jeep\Jeep.TMP
plrfile.cpp 2533: Retcode: 0 for renaming to USERDATA\Jeep\Jeep.PLR
game.cpp 764: Entered Game::Init()
vidman.cpp 1237: Entered VidMan::Init()
ai_db.cpp 2143: Entered AIDatabase::Init()
steward.cpp 4680: Entered Steward::Init()
hwinput.cpp 6426: Entered HWInput::Init()
specialfx.cp 3255: Entered SpecialFX::Init()
dynman.cpp 674: Entered DynMan::Init()
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\TRACKVEHICLES\SAFETYCAR\SAFETYCAR.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
pitmod.cpp 194: Entered PitAction::Init
AnimationLoa 24: AnimationLoader::Load(PitCrew.ani)
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66007\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66007\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\67006\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66003\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66021\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66030\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66007\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66003\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66030\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\67006\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66021\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66007\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66030\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66003\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\67006\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66021\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\67006\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66030\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66003\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRACARS\CAN-AM\LOLA T70 SPYDER\66021\..\LOLA_T70_SPYDER.CAS)
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
dynman.cpp 803: Exited DynMan::Init()
LensFlare.cp 59: Entered LensFlare::Init()
camera.cpp 4125: Entered CamMan::Init()
sound.cpp 753: Entered Sound::Init()
render.cpp 286: Entered Render::Init()
onscreen.cpp 2953: Entered OnScreen::Init()
AnimationLoa 24: AnimationLoader::Load(GPRoadAmerica.ani)
AnimationLoa 180: Error loading mesh file M-FANFEMALE-3.GMT.GMT to memory
game.cpp 893: Entered Game::Restart()
sound.cpp 760: Entered Sound::Restart()
steward.cpp 4835: Entered Steward::Restart()
specialfx.cp 3732: Entered SpecialFX::Restart()
hwinput.cpp 6437: Entered HWInput::Restart()
dynman.cpp 811: Entered DynMan::Restart()
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
vehload.cpp 732: RPM-torque brake > throttle @ 0.000000
driver.cpp 624: Race Ability: 3.000000 CorneringAdd: 1.500000
camera.cpp 4149: Entered CamMan::Restart()
render.cpp 302: Entered Render::Restart()
onscreen.cpp 2973: Entered OnScreen::Restart()
vidman.cpp 1454: Entered VidMan::Restart()
plrfile.cpp 3381: Entered PlayerFile::Restart()

Subject: Re: CTD during quick race session (GTL) Sat 05 Mar 2016, 3:30 am

Have you tried "reconverting" the car? I know I have made mistakes and for the life of me, couldn't find the prob...repeat the convert, Voila! Prob solved. Worth a try. Good luck

Subject: Re: CTD during quick race session (GTL) Sat 05 Mar 2016, 7:52 pm

Hi Jeep,

As a start, you should fix the problem with the track.

You need to edit the GTR2\GameData\Locations\RoadAmericaGP\GPRoadAmerica.ani file.

Look for this section :

//crowd-gal4
Object=SPECTATOR
{
MeshFile=M-FanFemale-3.gmt.gmt ActorFile=M-Crowd_Female-1.LMA Motions=CROWDMOTIONSIDLE1 Pos=(-33.4342, -0.1443, -395.2736) AutoRotate=towards
}

and rename the M-FanFemale-3.gmt.gmt to M-FanFemale-3.gmt
That is, remove the extra .gmt from the end.

This error is also in the WatkinsGlen1967 track so you may as well fix that too Wink

Rinse, repeat on the 67Glen.ani file.

Have you tried the Lola T70 on GTR2 default tracks or just on the Can-Am tracks ?
The trace file isn't indicating a problem with the Lola car so it's impossible to say what is up, but I'd fix those tracks anyway to eliminate some variables.
Wink

Subject: Re: CTD during quick race session (GTL) Sat 05 Mar 2016, 10:12 pm

Hi Both,
Many Thanks for the replies, I'll look at the tracks.

Meanwhile I went back to basics. It runs perfectly in GTR2 and with all the conversions done by those a lot more clever than me I wallowed in self pity for a while. I had re converted the car more than once with unfortunately the same result Sad

Eventually this morning more in desperation than anything else I decided to re download the GTR2 pack from scratch. Result is I re converted the Lola from the original download. (Just 1 car number, no BIKS's, active/inactive Icons etc). and lo and behold it works. Shocked

So, I'm totally confused at the moment. The car I had converted several times from my GTR2 install appears to be no different to the one from the fresh download but 1 works the other doesn't. Confusion reigns at the moment but A working solution if far better than something which doesn't even if I knew why.

So I am going to re add the BIK's etc 1 step at a time in the hope I either find the problem file or if it all works rinse and repeat for the other car numbers.

Really appreciate the feedback, I'm a complete novice at this and originally only did it because I wanted to learn something about the GTL file system and for my own amusement (I have no established skills to bring to the table). and while conversions like this are probably 2nd nature to most I seem to have lurched from crisis to crisis so sometimes it's really helpful to hear these comments.

Thanks again both.

TTFN
John.

Subject: Re: CTD during quick race session (GTL) Sun 06 Mar 2016, 3:31 pm

@ Jeep,

If you created any Icons for GTL make sure the size of them is 70x66 or this will cause you problems that could CTD the game

Subject: Re: CTD during quick race session (GTL) Sun 06 Mar 2016, 4:42 pm

Yes, been there done that, got the Tee Shirt. Smile

I think I found it, I need to do a few more tests but so far I seem to be able to CTD or not at will with no file changes at all. It wasn't a file it was something else which may be a windows or GTL limitation which I'm sure everyone else knew about but is a new one on me..

Let me carry out a few more tests before saying what it is in case I'm talking out of my a$$ as usual. Wink

TTFN
John.

Subject: Re: CTD during quick race session (GTL) Sun 06 Mar 2016, 10:23 pm

Well, Does this make any sense??

The problem appears to be related to the length of the <PATH>/filename. I had my install nested under several other directories in my "testing" directory" rather than straight off the root directory. The Lola had the longest file name of all "66003_SIM_GTC_lola_t70_SPYDER.car" for example.

Moving the install up several directories stopped the CTD's (Moving it back to where it was and they come back). I was previously aware there was a restriction but I thought is was somewhere around 255 characters and mine wasn't even close to that.

So solved Very Happy

but still confused....

Thanks for the feedback all. Really appreciated.

TTFN
John.

Subject: Re: CTD during quick race session (GTL) Sun 06 Mar 2016, 11:43 pm

Glad you found your problem Jeep... always a sweet moment when you do it yourself!! clown

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