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alex12 wrote:
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+1 GOOD great skin!

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PostSubject: Re: [NEWS] Le Mans Classics (not only GTL)    [NEWS] Le Mans Classics (not only GTL) - Page 17 EmptyWed 25 May 2016, 9:52 am

thanks guys Wink

well this time something else:
latest days I was thinking if really not try to spend some time to make regular 3d rims for our cars. Ive decided try to create new LMC wheel mesh although such work wasnt planned at all (thanks to NEChris and nay.dias to let me start thinking about this Wink)

Ive started to bother with this solution because such 3d rims could fit with the Power and Glory (PnG) mod by GTLW bit better. yes, we are in contact - supported by the GTLW crew - taking the Le Mans Classics mod PnG compatible Wink
also I was decided to use such full 3d wheels for the Marco F. Porsche 917 (70s) overhaul work in future...

well, basicaly I can say I was just curious, if I could be able to make the new 3d wheel system working without any bigger original LMC wheel Le Mans Classics texture paint editation. as you know, there is a plenty of wheel style paints.
ok, to make 3d wheels with 3d rims isnt any hard thing, but to make them with a PROPER texture radial BLUR feature isnt so easy. it needs to rethink a whole mesh and uv-map logic, to be able hide or show the current mesh parts.

Porsche 3d wheel rims static stage (wip)
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Ferrari 3d wheel rims - static stage (wip):
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Ferrari 3d wheel rims - semi blur stage (wip):
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Ferrari 3d wheel rims - full blur stage - rear wheels (wip):
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BorekS, thanks very much! You listened my prayers!
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BorekS wrote:

ok, to make 3d wheels with 3d rims isnt any hard thing, but to make them with a PROPER texture radial BLUR feature isnt so easy. it needs to rethink a whole mesh and uv-map logic, to be able hide or show the current mesh parts.

Although I didn't understand much,
I know,
that you know
what you are doing, so
no need to know
lol!

But then, I know from the pictures that
this will be an... OH YEEEAAAH!!! work.
And that's all I know
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thanks Wink

as to the wheel blur logic:
SimBin (GTL, GTR2 or the RACE series) and ISI (rF, rF2) so like a lot of another game engines cant present a spining wheel with so high object rotation speed to show real like looking wheel blur effect this way.

to fake such effect is used a texture frame-by-frame animation logic instead. the spinning wheel object just replaces its texture file by a current vehicle speed (just by events).

a lot of 3d modelers / modders simply ignores the wheel blur feature completely, some of them applying it on the tire/tread mesh only. some of them applying it on the wheel rim aswell, but they not adding the flat surface, which is the way how to decently present a full rim blur effect (ok, depends on the rim shape of course).
this causes the spinning wheel / wheel rim may present a strange non-real like looking blur effect ingame.

in a next post I will show more...


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here is a sample from our Cooper T73 mod, the wheel style1.
this image presents the final all-in-one wheel mesh solution. you can notice the 3d rim is merged with a flat circle surface, which is the 2d rim infact.

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at the next image the first picture line presents the 3d rim is mapped with a solid texture area and the flat 2d rim is mapped with a fully transparent area (means this mesh part is invicible ingame)

the second picture line presents the 3d rim is mapped with a fully transparent area (means this mesh part is invicible ingame) and the flat 2d rim textured area appears instead.

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so, this is how it works... by a simple texture file switching for one single mesh you can hide or show some mesh parts.
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Thank you for these Explanations GOOD
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dandelo wrote:
Thank you for these Explanations GOOD
DITTO!
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babis_xo wrote:
dandelo wrote:
Thank you for these Explanations GOOD
DITTO!

I ditto the ditto ! GOOD GOOD
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And I ditto the ditto's ditto!
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I ditto the ditto the ditto's ditto!! DITTO
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LOL!

ok, lest try the new 3d wheel rims with modern game engines... Ferrari 330 P3/4 quick Assetto Corsa port test:

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AC makes it look soo good... Too bad that the game could have been much better than it is...
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yeah...

ok, the 3d wheel rim work continues, here are very early images of the Ford Mk.IV new wheels.
the blur effect isnt applied there yet.

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Thanks Thanks Thanks Punk Punk
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ney.dias wrote:
Thanks Thanks Thanks Punk Punk
no DITTO this time, but MIRROR:
Punk Punk Thanks Thanks Thanks
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Smile Smile Smile

ok, almost forgot to share a week old video footage, taken with a smartphone (I am lazy to solve some kind of problems to record the stuff another way)

this small footage presents the current stage of Ford Mk.IV, you can also notice the 3d wheel / rim blur effect,

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well, you may feel bit tired of all the Fords, Ferarris or Porsches, right?

ok, lets make a small break - today I could show something small for LE MANS CLASSICS french and italian car lovers. I just took a few hours  to port two LMC bonus cars, the Alpine A220 and the Alfa T33/2, into GTL. the original cars are made by RookieOfTheMans for F1C game.
our versions got for start new wheels (2d rims) and a new quick texture paint.

these cars are not our priority now, I am taking such quickports juts like a relax Smile
its a placeholder stuff for deep-strikes physics and sound work.

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I'm loving the Alpine, so unexpected Smile
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Two lovely beautiful cars, too !
The best Sports Cars era ! cheers
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BorekS wrote:
well, you may feel bit tired of all the Fords, Ferarris or Porsches, right?

NO!  Laughing

ok, lets make a small break - today I could show something small for LE MANS CLASSICS french and italian car lovers. I just took a few hours  to port two LMC bonus cars, the Alpine A220 and the Alfa T33/2, into GTL.

Shocked Thanks m8, you can have as many as possible breaks like this! thumbup2

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