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 Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!

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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Tue 21 Aug 2018, 2:34 pm

Very Happy GOOD
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Tue 21 Aug 2018, 4:17 pm

Soze wrote:
Bonnier: Send me the photos and I will paint your cars too.

Thanks! I've sent you a PM with a link to photos of four cars from the 1967 season.
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Tue 21 Aug 2018, 11:41 pm

I got them. They're nice pictures and cars. I already had Bonomi's car on my sights, but the others are a surprise. I haven't gotten that far in my search, beyond some isolated, very famous cases. For instance, I had no idea that there were seven of them at the Targa Florio 1965.
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Wed 22 Aug 2018, 10:21 am

Cool, looking forward to see what you come up with!
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Thu 23 Aug 2018, 1:58 am

I think that was easy to guess:

1965 Targa Florio:

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1yce1brxo/

The skins are preliminar, changes are coming.

I'm having problems identifying some of the logos:



Can you guys help me?.

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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Thu 23 Aug 2018, 10:54 am

Difficult - even here no further info: http://www.zagato-cars.com/contents/en-us/d602_Alfa_Romeo_Giulia_TZ_Targa_Florio_Entries.html
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http://www.targapedia.com/album_targa_florio/1948_1968/1965/TARGA%20FLORIO%201965%20-%20ALFA%20ROMEO/index.html

#60 car - on some pictures of model cars there is simply an "I" for Italy or "Castrol" on that particular place which obviously is wrong.

http://forum-auto.caradisiac.com/sport-auto/histoire-du-sport-auto/sujet378358-42875.htm#t15270920


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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Thu 23 Aug 2018, 11:32 am

Yes, I know. Those two are among my primary sites for this car. Targapedia gave me the idea of painting Targa Florio grids.

QUOTE:

''#60 car - on some pictures of model cars there is simply an "I" for Italy on that particular place which obviously is wrong.''

Most of diecast models and slotcars aren't very trustworthy.

Worse is the mess with the contradictory chassis numbers and registration plate changes, you can't trust what you find because other sites state the opposite and it's hell to find confirmation.
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Thu 23 Aug 2018, 11:42 am

The no. 52 windscreen logo is probably a race registration or scrutineering sticker but it shouldn't be too hard to create something similar since it wouldn't be readable in game anyway. The back panel logo of the no. 60 car shouldn't be that difficult to recreate as well. As for the blue and yellow logo, my guess would be it's some kind of region crest. The car's registration plate says "BA" which is the Bari region.
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Thu 23 Aug 2018, 12:44 pm

Was thinking about a logo from Scuderia Apulia or simply the region Apulia - maybe something similar like this:
http://www.wikiwand.com/de/Liste_der_Wappen_in_Apulien

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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Thu 23 Aug 2018, 1:26 pm

My guess would be that the back panel logo is a Scuderia Apulia Corse logo although I couldn't find any confirmation of this. As for the crest logo, I'm sure it's buried somewhere in one of the thousands of pages of Italian "Coats of arms of municipalities" on the below website. Here's just the letter "A" which only has 351 subpages to explore...

http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Category:Italian_Municipalities_A
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Thu 23 Aug 2018, 1:51 pm

Best I could find - but still far too small



Maybe you should ask at Targapedia

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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Thu 23 Aug 2018, 2:37 pm

I already have that one, but you're right, I can ask at Targapedia.
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Fri 24 Aug 2018, 1:54 am

In the meantime, I'm painting liveries from races that were left behind.

1964 Nürburgring 1000 Km:

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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Fri 24 Aug 2018, 6:36 am

Great work - much appreciated! GOOD Thanks

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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Fri 24 Aug 2018, 5:37 pm

A couple more:

1963 Rally Tour de Corse:



and, for mr Bonnier:

1967 IMC Circuito del Mugello:

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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Fri 24 Aug 2018, 5:53 pm

WOW! This is going to be amazing!
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Sat 25 Aug 2018, 9:31 am

Looks stunning! Can't wait to give the no. 69 car a go at Ronde Cévenole (which I use as a substitute for the Mugello Stradale track).
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Sat 25 Aug 2018, 3:48 pm

Thanks, man Smile BTW, what do you think of thet shade of blue?

I painted one more today:

1967 IMC Targa Florio:



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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Sat 25 Aug 2018, 8:43 pm

The blue colour looks spot on judging by the model car pics I sent you! The no. 160 Targa entry looks great as well! I first thought that the Scuderia Pegaso entry listed at racingsportscars.com was wrong but it appear to have been a joint entry by Giliberti Corse and the former.
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Sun 26 Aug 2018, 12:24 am

It was a mess, that year. The TZs were reclassified as Prototypes. The car #106 was renumbered as #158 and the car #110 as #160. The Nissena (158) and the Sant Ambroeus (162) were withdrawn and there aren't pictures of them that I know of. The cars #106 and #110 didn't race, so I won't paint them.
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Sun 26 Aug 2018, 12:06 pm

Soze, very much appreciate your work and I especially like your interest in doing historically correct cars. It is good to see motorsport history is kept alive this way. Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Sun 26 Aug 2018, 11:10 pm

Thank you for your words, seniordan.

I wasn't planning to paint today, but I found a couple of nice pictures and:

1965 WSC Nürburgring:

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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Mon 27 Aug 2018, 6:05 am

Thank you, wonderful! I really love more real historical skins over fictional I love you
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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Mon 27 Aug 2018, 6:27 am

GOOD I Am Not Worthy

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PostSubject: Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ -63 - looking for modder!   Sat 08 Sep 2018, 4:20 pm

More:

1966 WSC Targa Florio:



1968 ICM Targa Florio:



1969 ICM Targa Florio:



1970 ICM Targa Florio:



The skins are lacking several stickers that I haven't been able to find yet, plus some adjustments to the models, which will be added later. They're not final versions.

I also have outstanding news: Greg7 is doing the physics for this car Smile.

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