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jd121449



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PostSubject: Genstring Positions   Genstring Positions EmptyThu 29 Sep 2016, 3:41 pm

Does anyone know if there is a symbol for position 14 in the gtr2/gtl genstrings? I know the symbols for positions 10,11,12,13, 15, 16. (14 is unknown to me) maybe non-existent? That would be kinda strange.
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PostSubject: Re: Genstring Positions   Genstring Positions EmptyThu 29 Sep 2016, 3:47 pm

The ones I know
10 <:>
11 <;>
12 <<>
13 <=>
15 <?>
16 <@>
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PostSubject: Re: Genstring Positions   Genstring Positions EmptyThu 29 Sep 2016, 4:32 pm

jd121449 wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a symbol for position 14 in the gtr2/gtl genstrings? I know the symbols for positions 10,11,12,13,  15, 16.  (14 is unknown to me) maybe non-existent? That would be kinda strange.

Nope, it seems there's no other working digit... but we can't know for sure. Personally, until Zee released the Cortina mod I had no idea that the 12th digit is working... and I really did some searching to see if there're more digits working and did some testing myself. It seems I didn't do a proper job since I couldn't find the 12th digit on my own. Thing is, if Simbin did all this Genstring allocation on purpose, why skip digit 14th?! But this is another question: if they did all this allocation on purpose or it's just a random thing.

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PostSubject: Re: Genstring Positions   Genstring Positions EmptyThu 29 Sep 2016, 4:53 pm

I had a 'discussion' with a guy on NoGrip about the Genstrings who insisted that the 12th (<) and 14th (>) symbols can't possibly work as they're 'delimiters'! Well he's right about the 14th sadly and he also pointed out that its the ASCII code sequence that's used so in theory you could have many more genstring positions but it seems the game is hard coded to stop at 16 (with 15 usable) Sad
Still, 15's usually enough with a bit of thought and combining stuff... scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Genstring Positions   Genstring Positions EmptyThu 29 Sep 2016, 5:09 pm

Zee wrote:
I had a 'discussion' with a guy on NoGrip about the Genstrings who insisted that the 12th (<) and 14th (>) symbols can't possibly work as they're 'delimiters'! Well he's right about the 14th sadly and he also pointed out that its the ASCII code sequence that's used so in theory you could have many more genstring positions but it seems the game is hard coded to stop at 16 (with 15 usable) Sad
Still, 15's usually enough with a bit of thought and combining stuff... scratch

Then... that could be it! pale

Combining stuff... yeah, that's 1 of the "fixes" for the lack of working digits. This increases the size of the mod because it makes you duplicate parts. Still, nothing can beat the poor job Simbin did here: they duplicated the entire car even tho there're some little differences between bodies, easy to fix via Genstring!

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PostSubject: Re: Genstring Positions   Genstring Positions EmptyThu 29 Sep 2016, 7:44 pm

Thanks for the replies guys. Smile
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