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Uncomman

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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyWed 29 Aug 2018, 2:41 pm

Muddie7272 that did the trick, menus look perfect, and it picked up my Cupstage Name! Thanks, been puzzling this for some time, although I will probably look more closely at the underlying code to understand better, I saw someone refer to a geditor, maybe I need to get one.

One more question: I suspect there is a setting somewhere that enables one to bypass having to win a series to move on to the next, as it is I will not be able to run those championships unless I finish Cup E?

Very much appreciated Smile
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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyWed 29 Aug 2018, 3:29 pm

Oh and while I am here, I don't want to have to remember how many opponents to select for each class, and if I don't then GTL adds duplicates. I want to set that number (MaxOpp=25 for example) in the .gdb for that class or series. I could probably go and look for it but you probably know offhand?
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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyWed 29 Aug 2018, 3:44 pm

I think I just found it, in the Game.dic:

"FIA GTU Championship" = "FIA GTU Championship" // Max 26

If I remove the //, I assume the number of opponents is limited to 26?

Am I correct? I will test with one of the others that I already have access to
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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyWed 29 Aug 2018, 3:49 pm

Hmm GTL just fell over when I tried to access current Cup D. It does Quick Races fine but doesn't like the Cups
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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyWed 29 Aug 2018, 4:23 pm

Hy again

You mean you have a CTD when you say GTL just fell over, dont you? Take a look in the trace-file. Maybe there you will find the reason. Can also be a car or track issue, i think.

Greetings
Muddie
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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyWed 29 Aug 2018, 5:07 pm

Yeah I mean GTL crashed, still trying to sort it while juggling feeding dogs and making supper. I put the old menu back and removed all the changes still crashed, and then I put your Cupstage with the new menu, still crashed. It doesn't ever crash in quick race and I can only test on two tracks from the menu because only two challenges are open; one crashes at Imola and the other hangs the screen.

Will look at the trace file: where would I find it? Do you mean the Windows error log?
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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyWed 29 Aug 2018, 6:09 pm

I have Windows 8.0 and i get the trace file like that.

Create a shortcut of your GTL.exe-File. (rightklick on it -->create shortcut)

Open the dialogue of this File with a right Mouseclick. Open the second Menu from left, maybe its called also shortcut.

You see the Line "Target" in which you will see C:\GTL\GTL.exe. Type "-trace=1000" behind with a space between
(C:\GTL\GTL.exe -trace=1000)

From now on every time your Game go CTD you find in the Folder "GTL/UserData/Log" a file named trace.txt. At the Bottom of this File. In the last line, you will find the reason, why your Game crashed.

If you cant figure out the Problem, post the last 2 or 3 lines from your trace-file. Maybe me or someone else can help you.

Ahh, i forget You HAVE TO start the Game with the shortcut, not with the GTL.exe-File.

Greetings
Muddie
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Uncomman

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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyWed 29 Aug 2018, 6:25 pm

Thanks - I looked at the error log but it didn't tell me much, just that it was GTL.EXE that crashed.

Here is the trace text last few lines:

slot.cpp 291: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 1354: Could not open
vehgfx.cpp 2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init()
vehgfx.cpp 2552: Unable to read USERDATA\LOG\vehgen.scn: Error opening scene file name USERDATA\LOG\vehgen.scn
vehgfx.cpp 818: Could not open
vehgfx.cpp 2607: Could not find instance "SLOT015"

In the beginning of the trace, this was repeated many times:

setup.cpp 1088: Could not find HEADPHYSICS_GTL.HED

I'm going to search for all these files and try to work out what is going on. I have never had a problem with the game, added many cars and tracks, this is the first problem. It could be a coincidence though.


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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyWed 29 Aug 2018, 7:42 pm

Hi!

Made a Test with a Disabled CPit.GTL-file and get this:
vehgfx.cpp   2520: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\EXTRA CARS\TZ1\1964 WSC LE MANS\40LM\..\..\ALFA_TZ.CAS)
vehgfx.cpp   2552: Unable to read USERDATA\LOG\vehgen.scn: Error opening MAS file ALFA_TZ_CPIT.GTL
vehgfx.cpp   2607: Could not find instance "SLOT000"

In your 2520-Line your Brackets are empty. Its only a guess, but can there be an Issue with the Car-Classes (xxx.car-File at the Bottom). I think the vehgen.scn-file is not the Problem. I think it is something similar to the trace-file.

Greetings
Muddie
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Uncomman

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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyWed 29 Aug 2018, 8:05 pm

Gotcha. Yes I also thought it had to be a car classes problem. Will check it out but will install another GTL anyway and copy the user data across if necessary.

Thanks for the help, will tackle this first thing tomorrow morning!
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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyThu 30 Aug 2018, 11:30 am

FIXED! It was a BMW CSL .hdc file that didn't exist in the folder for the car. I didn't discover it until I tried to run the D Cup because the car wasn't specified in any of the classes I had created but when trying to run the Cup it selects from all the cars. I just deleted the car, wasn't using it anyway.

Now all my classes are set up for F, G, and H Cups. Now if only I could race any series (without doing quick races) without having to win the previous ones...

Huge thanks Muddie!! Your menu mod works a treat!
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moved topic

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Uncomman

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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptySun 14 Oct 2018, 8:42 pm

Muddie7272 wrote:
Rename the gtlui.mnu-File in your UIData-Folder (for Backup).Something like "_gtlui.mnu"
Move the gtlui.mnu file from the Download to your UIData-Folder
Run GTL and look what happened.

See this topic: http://www.evolution-modding.net/t1394p25-no-more-biks-needed#44553

I just spent an hour carefully selecting which changes to allow so that I could get your menu changes AND remove the BIKS, and it worked first time! Now I have mini showrooms wherever I need to select cars!

MUCH better...
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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyMon 15 Oct 2018, 6:02 am

This is how it all looks and works now.

This is the 'Cups' page

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Then the Cup Challenges page:

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Then once the Challenge is selected, the Team selection page:

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This is the view from the Dealer:

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And from My Garage:

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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyMon 15 Oct 2018, 6:53 am

If anyone wants a copy of this .mnu mod that combines Muddie's menu with Petty's 'no biks needed' mod, please let me know. I will upload it and post the link. It automatically picks up additional Cups you have added to the Cupstages.gdb (you also have to create the classes and create cup.gdb's specifying the tracks) and then features mini-showroom rotating 3d cars instead of biks wherever car selection takes place.

Credit and thanks to Petty (http://www.evolution-modding.net/t1394-no-more-biks-needed?highlight=biks) and Muddie7272.
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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyMon 15 Oct 2018, 2:50 pm

Uncomman wrote:
If anyone wants a copy of this .mnu mod .................

cheers GOOD I Am Not Worthy Thanks Wow! That's a very good job, Uncommam! I'm very impressed with your skills. Thanks for sharing, and congrats to be part of our community now! Cheers!
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Uncomman wrote:
If anyone wants a copy of this .mnu mod that combines Muddie's menu with Petty's 'no biks needed' mod, please let me know. I will upload it and post the link.

Yes please mate. Could you provide a link to your version of the .mnu mod. It would be greatly appreciated by most I am sure... Smile
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@Uncomman: from where is this BMW 635 csi ? Could you upload it here for us? cheers Thanks Thinking denkend
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ney.dias wrote:
@Uncomman: from where is this BMW 635 csi ? Could you upload it here for us?  cheers  Thanks  Thinking  denkend

Ney, it is on Race Department, they have been releasing many cars from the 1987 WTCC, which I have always been interested in, was a high point in Touring Car racing, many makes involved and some great drivers:

https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/bmw_635-csi-gt-legends.22493/
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I will upload the menu mod as soon as I have permissions from the people who actually did the work, I just piggybacked...
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@ Uncomman: thanks for the BMW 635csi. Just downloading now. Cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL]   How to create...... NEW CLASSES IN GTL [TUTORIAL] - Page 4 EmptyMon 15 Oct 2018, 9:43 pm

Hi Again!

Uncomman wrote:
Then the Cup Challenges page:

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I hope you didnt forget the Scroll Function in the Track list. Look in my upload i think i made a report of my actions. Read the Readme_Wordpad-file. I would explain you what ive done, but i cant remember exactly. And the Report is a little bit cryptic at this Part. You are more in the Matter of hacking this File. Maybe you can solve it if it isnt done yet.

BTW: It seems that there is also a Scrolling Function for the Cupstages in a Challenge. I read it in my Report.  I think this can be handled in the CupStages.ctb-File.

Greetings
Muddie
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Yes I remembered, the track lists all scroll down, although you cannot race at lower tracks until they come up in the sequence; I have the DTM92 season set up with 20 rounds, two rounds at each track, and you can scroll down to your heart's content.

I think the Cup Stages can also scroll, have not tried, will actually test that and if not available will add it - the Cup Challenges already do. My 'special series' cup has seven challenges, so you have to scroll down to see the seventh.

When I upload it, should I just do it here or post it on the Misc or Tools section? Just waiting for Petty to answer my PM on Trackaholics
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Muddie, how long should one wait, is there a protocol for these things. Petty has still not answered my request.
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