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sakis

sakis

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PostSubject: Brake settings   Brake settings EmptyTue 06 May 2014, 12:53 pm

Hi I would like to ask if there is a way to adjust the brake ability.In some add on cars the brakes are too weak and I have to press the brake button a lot or twice and in some other add on cars the brakes are too powerful and sometimes the car turns around after braking.Have I to do in car setup for this or to change something in car folder files?


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PostSubject: Re: Brake settings   Brake settings EmptyTue 06 May 2014, 11:42 pm

Look in the .HDC file of the mod for [CONTROLS] and you find the braking under there that you can play with.

I find the brakes on the Ostalgie-Mod are quite bad.  Suspect 
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PostSubject: Re: Brake settings   Brake settings EmptyWed 07 May 2014, 12:11 am

Thanks i will try..I saw this mod but i have already downloaded about 300 mods..too many for my disc  Sad 
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PostSubject: Re: Brake settings   Brake settings EmptyWed 07 May 2014, 1:29 am

sakis wrote:
Hi I would like to ask if there is a way to adjust the brake ability.In some add on cars the brakes are too wake and I have to press the brake button a lot or twice and in some other add on cars the brakes are too powerful and sometimes the car turns around after braking.Have I to do in car setup for this or to change something in car folder files?

I saw your post and while GeeDee is correct, you can actually change the braking capacity by going further down the .hdc file. If you scroll down to where you see DRIVELINE, just below that is where the four corners of the car's suspension and braking capacities are located. If you look at where FRONTLEFT is, towards the bottom of that section, you will see these lines...

[FRONTLEFT]
BumpTravel=-0.005
ReboundTravel=-0.205
BumpStopSpring=90000.0
BumpStopRisingSpring=6.50e6
BumpStopDamper=2000.0
BumpStopRisingDamper=7.00e5
BumpStage2=0.090
ReboundStage2=-0.090
FrictionTorque=2.668
SpinInertia=0.509
CGOffsetX=0.000
PushrodSpindle=(-0.150, -0.150, 0.000)
PushrodBody=(-0.350, 0.320, 0.000)
CamberRange=(-1.5, 0.1, 41)
CamberSetting=20
PressureRange=(140.0, 1.0, 41)
PressureSetting=25
PackerRange=(0.000, 0.001, 41)
PackerSetting=0
SpringMult=1.00
SpringRange=(20000.0, 1000.0, 41)
SpringSetting=10
RideHeightRange=(0.100, 0.0015, 51)
RideHeightSetting=31
DamperMult=1.00
SlowBumpRange=(600.0, 100.0, 21)
SlowBumpSetting=6
FastBumpRange=(0.0, 100.0, 21)
FastBumpSetting=6
SlowReboundRange=(1500.0, 100.0, 21)
SlowReboundSetting=11
FastReboundRange=(500.0, 100.0, 21)
FastReboundSetting=8
BrakeDiscRange=(0.035, 0.000, 0)    // disc thickness
BrakeDiscSetting=0
BrakePadRange=(0, 1, 5)             // pad type (not implemented)
BrakePadSetting=2
BrakeDiscInertia=0.50              // inertia per meter of thickness
BrakeOptimumTemp=450.0              // optimum brake temperature in Celsius
BrakeFadeRange=650.0               // temperature outside of optimum that brake grip drops to half (too hot or too cold)
BrakeWearRate=1.215e-011             // meters of wear per second at optimum temperature
BrakeFailure=(1.33e-002,7.20e-004)  // average and variation in disc thickness at failure
BrakeTorque=2800.0                  // maximum brake torque at zero wear and optimum temp
BrakeHeating=0.00045                 // heat added linearly with brake torque
BrakeCooling=(1.910e-002,0.667e-004)  // minimum brake cooling rate (static and per unit velocity)
BrakeDuctCooling=2.000e-004         // brake cooling rate per brake duct setting

I have highlighted the specific line called BrakeTorque, you need to increase that value to actually improve the braking ability. If you increase that value, in this example it is 2800, increase it to 2900 but you must be sure that you do the same thing for both sides. If you don't make them match left to right, you will have bad pulling to the side you changed if you don't use the same values for each. Doing this will result in added heat to the brakes and also, you will be able to lock the tires up sooner under hard braking so keep that in mind as you make these changes. Good luck Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Brake settings   Brake settings EmptyWed 07 May 2014, 7:39 am

hmmguy wrote:
sakis wrote:
Hi I would like to ask if there is a way to adjust the brake ability.In some add on cars the brakes are too wake and I have to press the brake button a lot or twice and in some other add on cars the brakes are too powerful and sometimes the car turns around after braking.Have I to do in car setup for this or to change something in car folder files?

I saw your post and while GeeDee is correct, you can actually change the braking capacity by going further down the .hdc file. If you scroll down to where you see DRIVELINE, just below that is where the four corners of the car's suspension and braking capacities are located. If you look at where FRONTLEFT is, towards the bottom of that section, you will see these lines...

[FRONTLEFT]
BumpTravel=-0.005
ReboundTravel=-0.205
BumpStopSpring=90000.0
BumpStopRisingSpring=6.50e6
BumpStopDamper=2000.0
BumpStopRisingDamper=7.00e5
BumpStage2=0.090
ReboundStage2=-0.090
FrictionTorque=2.668
SpinInertia=0.509
CGOffsetX=0.000
PushrodSpindle=(-0.150, -0.150, 0.000)
PushrodBody=(-0.350, 0.320, 0.000)
CamberRange=(-1.5, 0.1, 41)
CamberSetting=20
PressureRange=(140.0, 1.0, 41)
PressureSetting=25
PackerRange=(0.000, 0.001, 41)
PackerSetting=0
SpringMult=1.00
SpringRange=(20000.0, 1000.0, 41)
SpringSetting=10
RideHeightRange=(0.100, 0.0015, 51)
RideHeightSetting=31
DamperMult=1.00
SlowBumpRange=(600.0, 100.0, 21)
SlowBumpSetting=6
FastBumpRange=(0.0, 100.0, 21)
FastBumpSetting=6
SlowReboundRange=(1500.0, 100.0, 21)
SlowReboundSetting=11
FastReboundRange=(500.0, 100.0, 21)
FastReboundSetting=8
BrakeDiscRange=(0.035, 0.000, 0)    // disc thickness
BrakeDiscSetting=0
BrakePadRange=(0, 1, 5)             // pad type (not implemented)
BrakePadSetting=2
BrakeDiscInertia=0.50              // inertia per meter of thickness
BrakeOptimumTemp=450.0              // optimum brake temperature in Celsius
BrakeFadeRange=650.0               // temperature outside of optimum that brake grip drops to half (too hot or too cold)
BrakeWearRate=1.215e-011             // meters of wear per second at optimum temperature
BrakeFailure=(1.33e-002,7.20e-004)  // average and variation in disc thickness at failure
BrakeTorque=2800.0                  // maximum brake torque at zero wear and optimum temp
BrakeHeating=0.00045                 // heat added linearly with brake torque
BrakeCooling=(1.910e-002,0.667e-004)  // minimum brake cooling rate (static and per unit velocity)
BrakeDuctCooling=2.000e-004         // brake cooling rate per brake duct setting

I have highlighted the specific line called BrakeTorque, you need to increase that value to actually improve the braking ability. If you increase that value, in this example it is 2800, increase it to 2900 but you must be sure that you do the same thing for both sides. If you don't make them match left to right, you will have bad pulling to the side you changed if you don't use the same values for each. Doing this will result in added heat to the brakes and also, you will be able to lock the tires up sooner under hard braking so keep that in mind as you make these changes. Good luck Smile


Thanks for help firstly and if I decrease this value the brakes will be more weak?.I have to do the same and for the rear?
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PostSubject: Re: Brake settings   Brake settings EmptyWed 07 May 2014, 7:58 am

yes, if you were to decrease the value, the brakes will be weaker. Whether you do the same to the rear depends largely on how the brake balance currently performs. Not having that mod, I don't know if brake balance is adjustable in the garage so I don't know. If for example, it is adjustable but the balance doesn't seem right then you can make that adjustment in the .hdc that I have shown you to fix it. If for example, you can alter the brake balance in the garage but the brakes don't seem to reflect what the setting is showing, increase/decrease that value accordingly. By that I mean, say you have the balance as 70f/30r and you still can't stop locking the back tires, decrease the rear brake values until what you see in game is reflecting the changes you made to the .hdc The only thing that is a must is that you have them match left to right. Front to back matching doesn't matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Brake settings   Brake settings EmptyWed 07 May 2014, 8:06 am

Thanks again,I will try this today,have a nice day  lol! 
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